DLNA compatibility ?

thedealman · January 15, 2009, 06:32:02 PM

This firmware is flaky, first I don't have my ps3 to test, but I also have a dlink 320. It doesn't work. First it saw the linkstation but still couldn't see anything,content of the drive that is. Then it said unable to access folder. Becasue it no longer saw the drive ??? Also noticed my computer also no longer saw it as UPnP device. So put back 2.10 and everything could once again see the drive. Applied 2.11 and both saw the drive for about 10-30 minutes and once again the device was gone ( as a UPnP). Always was usable as a normal NAS at all times.

drisok · January 16, 2009, 09:06:42 AM

Paul,

Can you give us Terastation Live owners an estimate of when to expect an update to our firmware?

Thanks!

Lextec2 · January 17, 2009, 10:19:44 AM

Was Reading So did they come out with new firmware that correct the PS3 compatiblity issue on the folder directory have have installed the latest software and still the media server is not up dating content

thank newbee

shaneman · January 18, 2009, 10:27:27 AM

Are users of the older models, such as my HD-HTGL/R5, out of luck here? The last firmware update was installed at the end of 2007. Please let me know so that I may consider an (more complicated and expensive) alternative. Thanks.

jfourman · January 18, 2009, 04:51:59 PM

I don't understand why others have problems with the TS Live and DLNA to the PS3. I bought my first 2TB TS Live (RAID5) about 2 years ago. I have continued to upgrade firmware as released to include the current version 2.14. My directory structure for my TS Live is a share called "Media" with folders of Music/artist/album, pictures/event subfolder and Video/title/title.vob. I initially used PCast but got frustrated because I would often have to manually rescan the share when I added new media...and the PCast interface is slow. So I bought Twonky for $40 and achieved perfection. My PS3 has never had a glitch seeing my TS Live and it has streamed music and video flawlessly over my 100mps wired network (I have recently upgraded to a Gigabit network). I rip my DVDs as the full VOB (no compression). So the video stream plays with the exact same audio and video quality as the original DVD. At any point, my network may be supporting a Vonage phone call, my son's WoW game, my daughter streaming music from the TS Live and me watching an HD Video via my PS3 on my HDTV. With all of that network action, neither the TS Live nor the PS3 blink.

I recently purchased a second 1TB TS Live refurb from eCost for $268.00. I replaced the 250GB drives with Seagate 1.5TB Drives ($119.00 each - needed to upgrade FW). I now have a second 6TB TS Live for a $744.00. I updated the FW to 2.14, added Twonky and it runs flawlessly as well. I use this new TS Live as a grandfather backup to the house's PCs and the original TS Live.

I can't think of a more perfect solution to manage and stream media to my PS3 than the TS Live.

say170 · January 18, 2009, 05:30:36 PM

Yes, but you had to purchase and install Twonky. Plus, if you read other forums, you'll find out that Twonky isn't supported any more on NAS devices, 4.4.9 and 4.4.11 have problems, so you can only reliably use the old 4.4.6 - at least on the LSL V2.

Message Edited by say170 on 01-18-2009 05:31 PM

jfourman · January 18, 2009, 06:49:09 PM

My $40 investment in Twonky was a drop in the bucket considering I invested $995 in my original 2TB TS Live and $499 in my PS3. $40 of $1,534 = 2.6% of the total investment. I also bought an alternate remote for my PS3 (Harmony One + IR2BT = $250). I bought PlayOn for my PS3 to play Hulu and Netflix for $40. I bought DVDFab to rip my DVDs = $49

As I said, PCast worked fine except for the occasional need to manually scan media after adding a new movie. I don't mind that Twonky is not supporting new NAS releases. 4.4.6 works great. If a future incompatibility arises, I'll look at other software like Tversity. TwonkyMedia is considering offering the new NAS releases in which the only available support would be through the forums - like Open Source. That would be fine with me. While MS Windows comes with Wordpad. I don't hesitate to buy a better word processor by investing in MS Office. It doesn't make me feel that my Windows investment was wasted or make me return the PC.

All in all, I am extremely satisfied with my setup and have no problems with the investment. It works great to the point that my daughter had a friend over last night who said "Wow, this kind of stuff isn't supposed to exist until the future!"

Message Edited by jfourman on 01-18-2009 06:54 PM

say170 · January 19, 2009, 02:53:48 AM

Fair enough, but for me, the £17.5 UKP is against £100 - ie 15%+ - I paid for just my LSL. For the amount I need to pay for Twonky, I could have bought the CHL (ie LSL V3) instead - which is actually supplied with Twonky. In fact, I would have saved money, but I didn't need torrent support, and didn't realise that buying the more expensive model was the only option to have a working media server - contrary to what is printed on the packaging. That's why I have a serious gripe.

robaveli · January 19, 2009, 10:24:03 AM

I am still having problems with steaming music to my ps3 from my 500GB Linkstation. I upgraded to the newest firmware and it appeared to be working. A closer look revieled that not all my music was available from my Ps3. Now when i tried to view music my ps3 hangs up and gives me a DLNA error message and no music is displayed. Is anyone else having problems with viewing music on thier PS3 with the new firmware?

neab · January 20, 2009, 03:52:55 AM

I also bought this with great intentions for using it with my PS3. All I ask is if your not going to come out with a patch, please say soon, I'm fortunate enough to still be within my 30 days return policy!

sdhillon · January 20, 2009, 09:24:13 AM

I know this does not really address the Buffalo DLNA issue directly, but I am assuming others here are already using the free PS3 Media Server software out there. This thing is awesome. Ok you have to have it running on a PC, but the end results are great. It is still ironing out some early issues, but overall it blows some of the mainstream apps out of the water. It plays a number of different formats as well. If you have not already tried it, check it out.

http://ps3mediaserver.blogspot.com/

charby · January 23, 2009, 10:54:49 AM

HI,

I have been battling a similar issue with the following: Link Station Live 500GB (uPNP/DLAN) and a HP MediaSmart Connect (MSC) x280N. The infrastructure is base on a D-Link DIR-655 connecting the NAS via gigabit, the media player via Wireless N and the XP pro via wireless N.

The MSC identified the XP Media Player 11 (Control point/media Server/media Renderer) and streaming is no problem via the PC gateway service (HP modified middleware).

Problem is the MSC would sporadically not discover the NAS. Second, when it would, it would not stream.wav files. Well the wave problem was resolved by ripping media to the NAS as wma format. Did not make sense since the wav would play on the XP MP11 without issue. But I was glad that problem was "managed". (in retrospect this was probably NAS firmware.. more below)

However, the uPNP discovery issue was becoming a real pain as I do not want to have a PC running all the time, and sense both sides (Media player and NAS) are DLNA I should be able to stream directly across the wireless N without the PC.

Well I downloaded the Intel uPNP support software and sniffed the network. It appeared the linkstation was not responding the multicase request for service (discovery) by the MSC. (Google SDDP).

I then did a web based reset of the NAS and while monitoring the multicast from the MSC I was now able to see responses from the NAS. The MSC then presented the NAS as a Media Server in the MSC GUI.

Contacted Buffalo web since a new firmware was posted (2.11). Since the "fix" was related to the media player and PS3 I contacted technical support. Did not get any real meat on the details of the firmware upgrade but it was agree that base on the symptoms, this could have a bearing on the dentifed problem.

Upgrade when without a problem - hint use a wired connection for reliability. No configuration settings were lost and no new features were exposed in the web GUI.

After the upgrade, the NAS was reliably found, media played - including .wav!

In summary, make sure uPNP is enabled on the approved router, I would

Assign IP specific addresses based on client MAC from the DHCP server (router) and
Download the Intel tools as they were the key in sniffing the network for uPNP protocol communication

If the uPNP protocol is not working reliably (Control point joins network, Discovery via multicast and Device identifies services), the comm ports blocked (firewalled) or UPD is not supported the devices(Control point/media Server/media Renderer) will not "discover" each other and you won't get very far.

Once the discovery is made and the content is enumerated, the communication protocol and codecs chain can be established for point to point communication.

drisok · January 23, 2009, 01:25:01 PM

Since no firmware upgrade yet exists for the TeraStation Live thought I would add this bit that has worked for me albiet not the way it should be. I have the 1tb TeraStation Live with 1.1 firmware.

I have noticed that if i simply reboot the Terastation all of the media files are visible to the PS3. if anything is missing or not found when i add it to the TS Live, i continue to add more and more files only then rebooting to keep the hard drive cycles to a minimum.

of course this doesnt address the real problem and that is simply having a real fix for this from Buffalo.

Message Edited by drisok on 01-23-2009 01:27 PM

jfourman · January 23, 2009, 04:30:18 PM

drisok: Why don't you upgrade your TS Live firmware to 2.14? As I said in my earlier post, PCast DLNA to my PS3 worked for me with 2.14 with the exception of occasionally having to do a manual scan to update the index (although I now use Twonky). FW 2.14 has been available for over a year. There were several interim releases between your 1.1 release and 2.14 that include a lot of fixes and added Web Access.

The upgrade is here: http://www.buffalotech.com/support/downloads/" target="_blank">http://www.buffalotech.com/support/downloads/

shaneman · January 24, 2009, 10:17:54 AM

"Are users of the older models, such as my HD-HTGL/R5, out of luck here? The last firmware update was installed at the end of 2007. Please let me know so that I may consider an (more complicated and expensive) alternative. Thanks."

Anyone? I see in a list of discontinued products that the replacement to model #HD-H1.0TGL/R5 is the Terastation Live, model #HS-DH1.0TGL/R5. (http://www.buffalotech.com/products/discontinued/" target="_blank">List of Replacement Models) While I can't imagine that such would be the case, could I possibly download the firmware for that replacement model and try it? I fully expect that the hardware is different enough so that the firmware will not work on my Terastation. Just thought I'd ask the question.

So, please, can anyone answer the question of whether the HD-HTGL/R5 can/will ever be made to work with the PS3 Thanks again.

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