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: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: smcaudata February 04, 2009, 03:19:13 AM
   

I created some folders on my linkstation live that I was not able to remove and I was not able to put more than 2GB of files into. These folders were basically useless to me in this manner. I tried rebooting the device and this did nothing to help the problem. The options of formatting or initializing the drive were not available, just and empty dropdown box.  I clicked on erase disk and the warning said that it may take a few hours to complete. 12 hours later it was still going with pass 1/4. I went to sleep. I wake up in the morning and it is on 2/4 saying that it will take another 1200 minutes.  In about an hour I lose connection with the device and I get Apache web errors.  The blue light is blinking irregularly blue and white as is the function light.  Well, this went on for another 12 hours with no response. I turned the device off and then back on and the main light blinked red a number of times and then started to blink blue and white again.  Now when I type in the IP address I get the device and it says 

 

Currently a Format or Disk Check is being carried out.
During this time the LinkStation settings can not be changed.

Also the file share service will not be available.

 

Is the LS-CHL 1.0TB supposed to take 3 days to do a format or disk check?  What should I be doing to make the device functional again?  I just got the thing and had about 3 hours of actual use.  The first user I created I wasn't able to set a user group or password as the changes wouldn't take hold.  I'm pretty unimpressed with this device thus far. Either I got a major lemon or there are some huge problems with the 1.06 firmware that came on the device.

 

Prior to this mess I was successfully able to see the folders on the device from Vista, Windows7 beta, OS 10.5.6. Also the DLNA was working through the xbox and ps3.  I have a feeling that there may be some major issues with the internal disk itself.

Message Edited by smcaudata on 02-04-2009 03:22 AM
: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: Colin137 February 05, 2009, 12:13:23 PM

The "Disk Erase" option in the Disk Management section will write zeros to the entire disk four times over. This can take a number of days. In the future, if you need to format the drive, do it from the "Disk Format" option in Disk Management. This will be MUCH quicker.

 

I'm not sure why you were unable to use Disk Format... Once the disk erase has completed, try resetting the device to defaults from Maintenence->Initialization.

: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: smcaudata February 09, 2009, 06:58:43 AM
   I worked with tech support on this issue over the phone. They did not have an explanation for why I could not format the drive. They also were not sure why it had problems creating share folders that would take more than 2gb of data either. To attempt a fix they recommended to force a firmware update. This also did not work as it timed out on the attempt with multiple tries.  I let the drive attempt it's disk check overnight and nothing happened. It continued to blink the blue light irregularly while showing an Apache error when trying to use the web management and not showing up in NAS utility.
: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: Colin137 February 10, 2009, 05:05:02 PM
I recently experienced that last issue you mentioned with our in-house Linkstation LS-CHL. After a Disk Erase, I saw internal server errors from the web interface. I was able to fix it by forcing the firmware update with all four config options checked, as this will completely reset the device to it's factory default settings, including a drive format. CAUTION: checking the "Rebuild partition table" option will erase all data. It took a couple times to get it to work, but I haven't seen problems with it since.
Message Edited by Colin137 on 02-10-2009 05:05 PM
: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: smcaudata February 11, 2009, 12:07:56 AM
   Well. I did try to force the update a couple of times with the last time having all the boxes checked but I only did it once. I am waiting to hear back from the retail customer support so I may try a few more times.  The drive was fresh out of the box and unable to make folders so it didn't have any data that isn't still no my computer.
: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: smcaudata February 16, 2009, 12:16:34 PM
   

Well, I never was able to get this problem fixed through forced updates. I got a new drive from the vendor through RMA since it was so new.  I have the same problem with this drive that I started with.

 

When I click on the Shared Folders option in the web interface and then I click the 'Add' button I do not have the option to select the volume as I should according to the user manual.

 

To test this out I plugged in an old 25gb external drive and formatted it through the web interface with XFS.  I still do not have the option to select the volume in this circumstance.

 

The reason this is a problem is that when you cannot select the volume, you cannot delete the folder later AND the folder can only hold 2GB.

 

Also of note: When I click on Disk Management in the web interface I cannot perform a Disk Check or a Disk Format on the linstation drive.  I can only do these features on the external drive I plugged in.

 

This is the second drive I have received with this problem. At this point in time I am about ready to return the drive and eat the restocking fee (although the retailer may not charge it if the drive is not functioning as it should) as there seems to be some quality control issues.

 

Note: Both drives shipped with Firmware 1.06. I am leary about attempting a firmware update or anything on this new drive as it is currently "usable". I would like to be able to create shares so I can set permissions and such. 

: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: Colin137 February 17, 2009, 04:12:25 PM
You cannot create shared folders within the USB drive, the USB drive will show as a single shared folder.
: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: smcaudata February 17, 2009, 08:56:41 PM
   I can't create shared folders on the regular drive either. When I do they only hold 2gb and they cannot be removed. Is there a way to fix this issue?
: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: Colin137 February 19, 2009, 12:38:28 PM
I've never seen that issue before, so I think it may be related to how you're connecting to the drive. What operating system are you using, and how are you connecting the the shared folders?
: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: smcaudata February 20, 2009, 07:13:09 AM
   

The drive is connected to my wireless router. I have Windows Vista and OS 10.5. I did read that if you set the shares up for AppleTalk they will be limited in file size so I did not check that box when I tried to create a share.  I then connect to the shared folders through the mapped drives in windows explorer.  I tried to copy over about 5GB worth of smaller files and it said there was not enough free space.  This error occured when access the drive both from the Mac (in Finder) and the Windows PC.

 

When I create a share should I have an option where the "Volume" drop-down menu is?  This is just an empty option.  I've been able to make all the sub-folders inside of the /share/ directory that I want and there are no limits.

: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: Colin137 February 20, 2009, 02:34:28 PM

That's REALLY strange... the option in the Volume drop down should read "Disk1". I verified that with our unit. Are you using English for the display language?

 

Again, I recommend forcing the firmware update with all four config options checked, in order to reformat the entire disk and start over. This makes no sense... :/

: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: smcaudata February 20, 2009, 07:48:09 PM
   

I'm copying some of the stuff on the drive before I force the update. I found the instructions on the Buffalo site.

 

Checking all 4 config options will cause a drive format. Will this take many hours to complete (like a day)? I just want to know what to expect when updating.

Message Edited by smcaudata on 02-21-2009 01:09 AM
: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: smcaudata February 21, 2009, 10:07:18 AM
   

I was able to force the firmware update. The first attempt failed and the device restarted in EM mode. The second worked. The device restarted in Japanese as the default language. I was able to find the language option and change it, but I think that english would be a more universal default language.

 

Anyway, after the forced update I have the option to select a volume when creating a share. It seems I may have fixed the problem.  Thank you for your help.

: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: Colin137 February 21, 2009, 03:19:36 PM
Glad to hear it.
: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: jazzbo9 March 13, 2009, 11:03:55 AM
   I had the exact same problem; created shares that turned out to be only 2GB and could not be deleted.  Buffalo told me to reformat the drive.  I tried the hard reset and now it is dead.  I'm getting three blue lights which means a disk error.  Not sure what to do now.
: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: Colin137 March 14, 2009, 11:51:57 AM
jazzbo9, Call your local support center for a replacement.
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: jazzbo9 March 15, 2009, 10:45:16 PM
   I fixed it using the Buffalo NAS wiki.  There was a youtube in there that explained how to 'force' a flash.  I knew I needed to force a disk format (because I was getting 3 flashes) and when I did that it was good.  I also had to use another post I found in the wiki because the program came back up in Japanese.  This is a great product but you need to document it better!
: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: smcaudata March 15, 2009, 11:39:47 PM
   

It isn't just documentation. These are not tested properly prior to shipment. I got 2 of these and both of them had the initial problem of not being able to select the Volume when creating a share folder. Creating a share without a volume selected will make it 2GB max without the ability to delete it. In this state it also seems that you cannot perform a format or do any other functions to the disk. Disk erase bricks them and requires a forced format that sometimes works.  I think the problem is with the 1.06 firmware. There seems to be a high failure rate of the update.  All that needs to be done is to go into the manager and assure that the format disk option is available and that you can select a volume when creating a share.

 

It is a great product (if a bit slow since I bought this a week before the fast version was announced...). Documentation is lackluster but so is quality control. 

: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: Colin137 March 16, 2009, 10:01:01 PM

I've been trying to replicate this issue on our end, no luck as of yet.

 

jazzbo9:

 

The force update procedure and the instructions for fixing the language are also in this forum and the knowledge base, just to let you know.

: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: jazzbo9 March 16, 2009, 10:44:22 PM
   Hey it works and I'm happy.  A perfect solution for me!  Thank you.
: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: smcaudata March 16, 2009, 11:15:14 PM
   Perhaps it was just a batch that went out. I got mine from Provantage a week before I posted this first message. Not sure if that will help track down a unit. It appeared to be a firmware/formatting issue.
: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: prycej May 11, 2009, 05:07:22 AM
   

I have also now got the same problem also having problems with Web Access and permissions. 

 

I have created 3 shares absolutely fine, however created a fourth today and no volume was present.

 

If I now try to delete the volume I cant (doenst have a check box).  

 

I really hope I dont have to completely blat the device as I have already uploaded 240 GB of stuff (which took a while)... 

: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: prycej May 11, 2009, 06:32:47 AM
   I have just done a firmware update to 1.07 and has not made a difference.  I still dont see Disk1 when attempting too add a new share.
: Re: Problems with linkstation Live LS-CHL 1TB. Unable to access.
: Colin137 May 11, 2009, 05:42:17 PM
prycej, unfortunately the only fix that we know of for this issue is to force the firmware update, checking all four of the Config options in the Debug menu. The Rebuild Partition Table option WILL REMOVE ALL DATA.
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: prycej May 12, 2009, 06:02:37 AM
   

Colin,

 

Thanks for the help and shame about the loss of data have done this and can again correctly create shares.  

 

Although after re-creating the shares and enabling webaccess I am still having the original permissions problems after I have set things up again though (but seperate case on http://forums.buffalotech.com/buffalo/board/message?board.id=0101&thread.id=9627).

 

Thanks again.