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Products => Wireless => : nareshseep June 16, 2011, 02:37:01 AM

: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: nareshseep June 16, 2011, 02:37:01 AM

Good day guys,

 

I know everyone is looking for the best firmware for the WZRG300NH and so far I have found ddwrt 14998 to be very stable.

I did not expect much when I installed Gargoyle yesterday which is based on Openwrt  ButI  must say that the wireless performance has greatly increased, even routing has increased since there is reduced latency eg. when I click on a link the page just opens without any lagging like what happens to ddwrt. If you are technically oriented you can install openwrt and configure it to suit, and there are a lot of apps for openwrt.

 

http://www.gargoyle-router.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1212?

http://downloads.openwrt.org/snapshots/trunk/ar71xx/?

http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/buffalo/wzr-hp-g300h?

http://www.gargoyle-router.com/download.php?

 

Steps taken to install gargoyle if running ddwrt

1. Connect via terminal to router , I used putty

2. Go to directory \tmp, achieved by issuing the  command "cd \tmp"

3. Download Gargoyle, achieved by issuing the  command?

" wget http://www.gargoyle-router.com/downloads/images/ar71xx/gargoyle_1.3.14-ar71xx-wzr-hp-g300nh-squashfs-sysupgrade.bin?      "

4.  Write the bin file to memory

" mtd -r write? gargoyle_1.3.14-ar71xx-wzr-hp-g300nh-squashfs-sysupgrade.bin linux? "

5. Wait around 10 minutes

6. Router will reboot and you can connect to it via 192.168.1.1

 

Regards

nareshseep

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: KingJL June 16, 2011, 08:11:32 AM

I agree with naresheep.

 

Although, in my case, I used tftp to install the fw on my router.  It is somewhat safer (just remember to get the image gargoyle_1.3.14-ar71xx-wzr-hp-g300nh-squash?fs-tftp.bin instead of gargoyle_1.3.14-ar71xx-wzr-hp-g300nh-squash?fs-sysupgrade.bin) than the mtd method.  I would recommend use of the tftp method, if possible.  Only use the mtd method as a last resort.  And remember to double check to insure that you are using the correct image for whichever method you use.

 

For most users, the Gargoyle implementation should be all that they want or need and is extremely easy to use and administer.

 

For the more adventurous, the latest OpenWrt trunk build provides a lot more bells and whistles, but is a little bit more challenging to administer.  The LuCi interface provides a fantastic web interface for router adminitration and exhibits amazing versatility. 

 

Personally, after experiencing the operation of  Buffalo "user friendly", Buffalo DD-WRT, DD-WRT community builds, Gargoyle (OpenWrt Backfire), and OpenWrt latest trunk build, the OpenWrt based firmware wins hands down.  I am never going back to the Buffalo or dd-wrt firmware.  My future router decisions will be guided by the ability to run OpenWrt (especially for Atheros based routers).

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: John_M June 16, 2011, 09:49:39 AM

Ditto for me with Gargoyle.   Been up 3 weeks, no wireless drops, excellent streaming to PS3 (14 mb/s to my TW roadrunner connection) and wifi blu-ray players for Netflix.  No reboots needed.  

 

I've gotten to the point where I've forgotten about the router...and that's a good thing!

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: Colt725 June 20, 2011, 10:53:06 AM

YEA Gargoyle rocks!  :smileyvery-happy:

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: tomwu July 16, 2011, 10:11:52 AM

Guys, be aware... 

 

Don't know if it's the mtd issue that I followed the first post and the router brick after it rebooted. Maybe I should used tftp method...

 

While booting up, router light will flash but it end up only power/movie led light up.

 

Can't get dhcp, manual setup IP address on my laptop and no luck:(

 

Tried to push reset for 30 seconds, nothing changes.

 

And I'm in Australia with the 300NH bought in US, don't know if I can get warranty.....

 

 

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: elenalee July 18, 2011, 01:02:32 AM

What is the Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!?

can anyone rply me

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: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 18, 2011, 11:40:40 AM

still difficult to install openwrt, and too risky. also i dont think its possible to go back to dd-wrt or friendly firmware once you go to openwrt.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: KingJL July 18, 2011, 12:06:39 PM

slybunda wrote:

...  also i dont think its possible to go back to dd-wrt or friendly firmware once you go to openwrt.


Wrong!  You can always tftp userfriendly firmware back onto the router (I have done it more than once).  The wireless works extremely reliable with OpenWrt and the radios are properly controlled.   As for difficulty with installatioin, I have no problems installing via tftp.  The MTD method is extremely dangerous and should not be performed (even if you think you know what you are doing). 

 

And is the subject of this thread wzg300nh or wzr-hp-g300nh?  It makes a difference!  When you go changing firmware you must be specific, accurate, and correct!

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 18, 2011, 12:58:26 PM

ok you got me interested in this. since running user friendly firmware when i pull data off my server over the wifi i do get 7.8megabytes per sec over the wifi but then the router crashes and restarts. this happens all the time. and with dd-wrt its even worse.

 

iv downloaded this: openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wzr-hp-g300nh-squashfs-tftp, so i just tftp this over and i can get a basic wifi access point working?

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: KingJL July 18, 2011, 01:23:23 PM

slybunda wrote:

ok you got me interested in this. since running user friendly firmware when i pull data off my server over the wifi i do get 7.8megabytes per sec over the wifi but then the router crashes and restarts. this happens all the time. and with dd-wrt its even worse.

 

iv downloaded this: openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wzr-hp-g300nh-squashfs-tftp, so i just tftp this over and i can get a basic wifi access point working?


That is the correct firmware (I actually build my own version from the trunk).  Follow the directions for the wzr-hp-g300nh from the supported hardware pages (  http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/buffalo/wzr-hp-g300h ). ? You have a couple things to do after tftp that image (opkg install the drivers, luci, etc).  After you get luci up, then turn on the radios.  It is pretty straight-forward and fairly well documented (remember, you are doing the tftp option).

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 18, 2011, 01:42:11 PM

no good not working for me, i have followed instructions, set the arp -s entry for the router ip address and its mac address, used the tftp command and all i get is timeout occured and then connect request failed.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 18, 2011, 01:48:46 PM

even tried putting a switch between the laptop and the router and its still giving he same error. this is why less people bother with openwrt, its install methods are just too unreliable and risky.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: KingJL July 18, 2011, 01:53:17 PM

slybunda wrote:

no good not working for me, i have followed instructions, set the arp -s entry for the router ip address and its mac address, used the tftp command and all i get is timeout occured and then connect request failed.


You may have to do it from linux (one of the live-cd distros will work).

 

If you are doing it from MS(xp, etc.), you need to have a switch in between the pc and the router.  Also all firewalls need to be disabled.  Also the arp mac address needs to be 02-aa-bb-cc-dd-1a (for the wzr-hp-g300nh).  If you refuse to go the linux route and continue the windows route, you need to just keep trying and trying.  With the linux route, it has always worked 1rst time for me.  The windows route has always been a major PITA for me.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 18, 2011, 02:04:31 PM

no good again, to be honest if its this much trouble putting openwrt onto the router, i dead to know how hard it will be to revert back. gonna give up on this and not risk it. going openwrt is a guaranteed way to brick this router.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: KingJL July 18, 2011, 04:01:30 PM

slybunda wrote:

.... openwrt is a guaranteed way to brick this router.



I don't think you have to worry about it...  you can't brick it if you can't tftp an image to it. 

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 18, 2011, 04:21:18 PM

im willing to try again but i need better instructions. i do have a virtual machine running ubuntu. would that work for the job? i also have bootable cd/dvd of slax and ubuntu so i could use those directly on the laptop. would be good if you could provide more assistance on this.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 18, 2011, 05:00:56 PM

tried slax and even ubuntu live cds but none of them even have tftp packages installed. pointless at doing all this. will wait for buffalo to release updates for this router.

 

openwrt may be good for some users but if they cant fix it so that it installs without so many issues then its a waste of time and effort for the majority.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: buddee July 18, 2011, 06:53:08 PM

TFTP is all about timing, on the WZR-HP-G300NH after adding the arp entry, setting a static IP of like 192.168.11.2, and then have a command prompt open with the TFTP command line waiting on the computer, you need to unplug the router, plug back in, count to 10 (the tftp server on the router doesn't listen as soon as other router's do), then initialize TFTP. Has worked everytime for me with OpenWRT, buffalo DD-WRT, community DD-WRT, gargoyle etc. with no fail.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 19, 2011, 06:28:20 AM

which os did you use to try this with?

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 19, 2011, 06:57:29 AM

buddee's instructions worked, its transfered the image across. transfer successful: 2,752,544 bytes in 2 seconds

 

although now all im getting is a constant flashing red light? is it bricked?

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 19, 2011, 07:01:13 AM

now the red light is on solid, and not blinked or turned off.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 19, 2011, 07:14:10 AM

ok tftp'd over gargoyle, thats worked i can loginto the web gui, this tftp process is getting easier the more i do it, trick is to see the lan port on my switch light up when the buffalo is powered on, then wait 4 seconds and press enter on the tftp command.

 

worked 4 times for me now.

 

dunno why openwrt ended up in a bricked state

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 19, 2011, 07:53:03 AM

ok so far testing out gargoyle, doing data transfer of a 4.5gb video file over the wifi, router crashed after pulling 4 gigs of data. considerably better than dd-wrt but not much better than stock firmware. will test some more.

 

still dont understand why openwrt ended up in a bricked state.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 19, 2011, 10:33:17 AM

ok used the lates backfire build of openwrt 10.03.1 RC5.

 

very good interface and a ton of features and excellent feedback on all options. graphs are very good.

 

802.11n is unstable still. get lots of wifi dropouts.

 

802.11g is fairing better but will have to test it more.

 

i dont think there is any N router out there that can be used for rock solid streaming without it crashing or locking up,.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: bcmalloy July 22, 2011, 10:07:00 PM

 I tried The openwrt and Gargoyle firmware with my new  WZRG300NH? but mine has A2 on the back wich I think is an updated model.

 

I used tftp with this app (seemed to work more reliably) http://kin.klever.net/pumpkin?  in windows 7 and the router would just sit thier unable to be accessed until I tftped the normal friendly firmware back to it. Each time I gave the router 10 min for the firmware to install but it does not work.

 

So These firmwares, The latest gargoyle build "gargoyle_1.3.12-ar71xx-wzr-hp-g300nh-squashfs-tftp.bin"? and openwrt  "openwrt-ar71xx-wzr-hp-g300nh-jffs2-tftp.bin" DO NOT work with this new model according to my testing.

 

I hope this saves you wasting your time as I see no mention of this anywhere, that said the latest friendly firmware tftped onto router works great

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 23, 2011, 03:52:16 AM

the version of gargoyle you mentioned is not the latest. so if you made a mistake on that then im sure you messed up elseware too.

 

you say the latest friendly firmware works great then why bother with other firmware? for me stock friendly firmware is unreliable for streaming since router crashes and ends up rebooting.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: bcmalloy July 23, 2011, 04:14:08 AM

your right I actually used gargoyle_1.3.16-ar71xx-wzr-hp-g300nh-squashfs-tftp?, I grabbed that from the version I was going to use before I grabbed the newer version

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: buddee July 23, 2011, 07:03:58 AM

You are going to have to ignore that user, slybunda has trolled around the dd-wrt forum and this forum for some good while, I can also point you to posts that are filled with lies from this person about how they talk exclusively with buffalo techs in the UK, which is utter garbage, and i also highly doubt that slybunda ever got openwrt or gargoyle successfully flashed, which is something else that has been going on for more than a year as well. Should it continue, believe me a PM to a moderator for banning this user is in the works.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: drmemory July 23, 2011, 10:38:21 AM

 

While we don't always agree with everyone's opinion, we will let them ride, but flaming on people in the forums, especially ones that have tried and successfully done, and abide by forum rules isn't tolerated.

Slybunda and Buddee are always helping people here and we appreciate them.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 23, 2011, 06:25:44 PM

here is proof that i have run both dd-wrt and openwrt on my router.

 

openwrt which is currently running

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/openwrt.png/

 

and ddwrt which i have tried before.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/225/ddwrt1o.png/

 

dont accuse me of lying. i can provide any proof that is needed to show that what i say is true.

 

also im sure dd-wrt will be sorted out for this router. once its working great i will probably purchase the new wzr-ag300n for use on dd-wrt.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: buddee July 24, 2011, 10:37:48 AM

For instance, here is a post from Aug of 2010 where you claim all this openwrt talk, and you are coming back into this forum recently as of Jul 2011 (almost a year later?) just now installing openWRT? Care to clarify?

 

http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=51532&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=510?

 

Also here is once again where you state "ubiquiti, buffalo, netgear, linksys, are the ones i know of that use ath9k as the wifi driver for their stock firmware on the atheros hardware they sell. info obtained from resprctive manufacturers forums.?"

 

http://www.dd-wrt.pl/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=77644&start=15&sid=c09470e088c8fcf8b97ffc4a19afa6b8?

 

Care to clarify those statements? Didn't think so...

 

I donate money and routers to the project, and read many posts, believe me, your posts are not going un-noticed so when you come out with such continual gibberish its being noticed...

 

On the flip side, you should try not being so negative about the products you chosen to use. There is nothing wrong with them and they will never be perfect, but as i told you in the dd-wrt forum, no one is going to conpensate you, so going on and on with arguing and negative comments is pretty pointless.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 24, 2011, 04:29:59 PM

say what you will, majority of the people who use dd-wrt are experiencing these wifi issues on this router. as mentioned on the forums, for every 1 person who finds dd-wrt to be working fine, there is 30 people who complain about it not working well. the openwrt i used before was preinstalled on my cousins router when he purchased it from ebay, so yes i have previous experience of using it.

 

as for who uses the ath9k driver that information is also gathered from various other forums which i visit.

 

and since iv effectivley paid for dd-wrt on this router that gives me all the right to report bugs and issues with it on the router. if no one complains then devs will assume everything is working fine. thats not going to benefit anyone.

 

also ath9k is not without flaws too, i running openwrt but in G mode only on my wzr since N causes frequent reboots.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: KingJL July 24, 2011, 10:15:30 PM

 

Also here is once again where you state "ubiquiti, buffalo, netgear, linksys, are the ones i know of that use ath9k as the wifi driver for their stock firmware on the atheros hardware they sell. info obtained from resprctive manufacturers forums.?"

 

http://www.dd-wrt.pl/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=77644&start=15&sid=c09470e088c8fcf8b97ffc4a19afa6b8?

 

Care to clarify those statements? Didn't think so...

 


 

Also the statement that ubiquity uses ath9k is not quite correct. My ubiquity bullet m2 (ar7240/ar9280) with AirOS 5.3.2 uses madwifi. The difference is that ubiquiti understands that mad-wifi does not properly controll the ar71xx/72xx/ar92xx and provides a on board programmed offset.

 

exerpt from ubiquiti documentation:

Because of problems with TX power control in certain versions of the Atheros MADWIFI Linux Driver, the SR / XR cards were purposely programmed with a power "offset" which causes the driver to think it is transmitting at a lower power level than it really is...

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 28, 2011, 07:45:59 PM

kingjl how do you use the latest trunk snapshot of openwrt? i cant flash it directly to the router otherwise it just puts the router into a bricked state.

 

i can flash the backfire rc5 to the router no probs and it boots up. but i was wondering how to use the trunk snapshots.

thanks

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: KingJL July 28, 2011, 09:30:40 PM

slybunda wrote:

kingjl how do you use the latest trunk snapshot of openwrt? i cant flash it directly to the router otherwise it just puts the router into a bricked state.


 

I do not use the 'latest trunk snapshot'... I build the trunk weekly for ubiquiti bullet m2, wzr-hp-ag300n, and wzr-hp-g300nh.  The only one that I am currently using is the wzr-hp-g300nh.  I never have any problems updating the router with this firmware.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: slybunda July 29, 2011, 07:14:49 PM

how do you update it? do you just download the trunk snapshot and update using it in the web interface? your not clear enough on this.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: KingJL July 29, 2011, 08:14:32 PM

slybunda wrote:

how do you update it? do you just download the trunk snapshot and update using it in the web interface? your not clear enough on this.


I don't know how to be any clearer.  I BUILD THE TRUNK!!  I followed the directions on the openwrt site to set up my own build envirionment, and followed the same instructions on the steps taken to build a target.  It is pretty straight forward if you carefully follow the instructions.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: nareshseep March 29, 2012, 09:33:23 AM

Just an update I am running Gargoyle/Openwrt since I made this thread and so far no problems, I have 3 neighbors, and desktop and a laptop connected to my router and so far no problems. The QOS on gargloyle works great, its easily configurable and allows me to throttle by time or by max data dowloaded.

: Re: Best firmware for the WZRG300NH!
: nareshseep March 29, 2012, 09:39:35 AM

 

http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/buffalo/wzr-hp-g300h

 

NB

NOTE: More recent versions of the WZR-HP-G300NH have had a hardware change without bumping the revision number or changing the hardware label.
The newer hardware appears to have the rtl8366rb Ethernet switch while older hardware had the rtl8366s switch. As a result, this newer hardware is NOT supported in OpenWrt 'Backfire' 10.03.1-RC5 but it is supported in OpenWrt trunk since at least r28133