Those of you who have experience with Buffalo products, when might we expect release(non-alpha) firmware for the WZR-HP-AG300G? It's been just over three months now, and no update. It's seems odd for a company to devote so few rescources to a newly released product.
I purchased two of these units and I've read about the various issues with non-optimal, under spec performance. Therefore, I'm waiting for a proper firmware release before I invest the time to install these units into my network.
I've never purchaseed a Buffalo product, and I must say I'm quite dissapointed so far with the prodcut quality and lack of support.
I'm seeing problems too, consistent wireless dropout and sometimes the router needs a hard reset to get it working again. Looking for the buggy dropouts to get fixed guys. I'm a loyal Buffalo fan, just deliver stability in a firmware upgrade and I'm a raving fan again!
I'm with you guys. I tried a refurbished WHR-G300N I picked up for $17 online and was so impressed with it that I bought my WZR-HP-AG300H.
It's running OK, but it's like something is holding it back. I'm not experiencing any loss of connection or anything like that, but it seems like it's not realizing it's potential......like my lazy teen daughter.
I will go ahead and look in to it and see if I can possibly get a time frame.
Jotin,
What's the word on the latest FW coming out of alpha?
I cannot give you an actual date because I have not been given one. All I have been told is that they are definitely working to release a new firmware. I will post back once I have been given more info.
This router is in need of a firmware update. After workingn fine for weeks, I had to do a hard reset and reconfigure to get it to serve the internet.
Not at all impressed with Buffalo prodcuts. I regret my purchase.
Senorpablo wrote: ... I regret my purchase
I believe that a lot of us are in that boat!
KingJL wrote:
Senorpablo wrote: ... I regret my purchaseI believe that a lot of us are in that boat!
+1
I'm having a WHR-HP-G300N.
KingJL wrote:
Senorpablo wrote: ... I regret my purchaseI believe that a lot of us are in that boat!
Yes, this is a big boat. I heard good things from by friend about Buffalo. I am very disapointed with my device. It doesn't seem to match any of the specs. Certain features are basically broken and require the apha firmware to work. How is this acceptable or even legal? Are we only relying on open source to save us or is this company going to work on this firmware?
I bought the WZR-HP-AG300H ?to replace my Dlink DIR-655 because I was unhappy with its range. The AG300H doesn't even do half the range of my 655! The 5Ghz part of the AG300H doesn't make it past two rooms. The signal quality level is always poor.
The latest firmware 17201? seems to stop the connection drops but mac cloning still doesn't work after a reboot. Sorry for being so frustrated but I've spent hours an hours on this router. I feel stupid for not returning it.
I can understand your frustration. I think we know that the hardware is excellent but the firmware (like in every router) needs some fine tuning or more and that's why we're holding on.
I don't regret my purchase yet because I keep other routers as backups but like you guys, I am looking forward to the new firmware build.
Buffalo is probably wanting to make sure every "i" is dotted and every "t" is crossed before releasing a firmware version of which they're not confident. I can understand that but it doesn't take the frustration away of having to do reboots and hard resets/reconfigures.
For me, page loading when browsing isn't as fast as it should be. I have a refurbished Linksys e4200 that's setting the bar for all my other routers. What "other routers" you ask? I search the closeouts and refurbs for deals, and get them for under $20 shipped. I'll configure them, see if I like them and then sell them. Yes, I know, I have no life. But at least it keeps me out of the bars. :P I didn't get the e4200 for under $20 but I got it at about half the cost it lists for. But my Buffalo WHR-G300N is such a great router, it sold me on Buffalo products and is why I bought the WZR-HP-AG300H.
kargo27 wrote:....I think we know that the hardware is excellent but the firmware (like in every router) needs some fine tuning or more and that's why we're holding on.
...Buffalo is probably wanting to make sure every "i" is dotted and every "t" is crossed before releasing a firmware version of which they're not confident...
In my business we couldn't possibly release a product to thousands of customers with major features broken much less fine tuning issues.
Do we have any evidence ?that Buffalo is acually involved in making an offical version? I don't see any i's being doted in the alpha releases. If we're waiting for the Atheros drivers to be fixed by the open source coommunity then we could be waiting a very long time. I have a feeling we're all on our own here. I just filed a ticket for the mac address cloning bug. I'll see if there is a ticket for the power issue as well. I suggest everyone makes sure their bugs exist and file them if not! I don't know if anyone at this forum or at Buffalo does this for us. That's if your intersted in waiting.
Search and enter bugs here: http://svn.dd-wrt.com/?
FOUR months and counting with aplha software and no new release....
Mrvoidman has it exactly correct--software is to be completed and tested BEFORE products ship. It's part of development process, not support. Companies abuse the ease with which patches can be applied nowadays.
My routers haven't worked well from day 1.
I Just realized there's another bug. The DDNS feature (Dynamic domain name system) is broken. I have to register my website's IP manually. Another feature not working!
I seriously think this company is in over there head. It's time newegg and amazon start getting appropriate? reviews.
The DDNS bug has already been addressed in the SVN and is now working properly.
buddee wrote:The DDNS bug has already been addressed in the SVN and is now working properly
Is the SVN an official and supported FW?....People don't buy a 'Premium' product with a 'Premium' price (mine was $140 delivered)....with the expectation that they will need to hack, forgo official support and void a warranty to resolve issues that should be addressed by the manufacturer.
Consider that the next buffalo dd-wrt build will have DDNS fixed because its now addressed in the SVN tree, which is what the Buffalo DD-WRT builds are based on... All of your other rantings... i cannot help you with because it was a choice that you made to buy the router, all i was doing was simply replying to a statement made about a DDNS bug.
What alpha verson do people use here? I have 17201?.
Does installing the alpha verions void your warranty??
John (Admin), any new information about the next firmware version? Is there a developer who works for Buffalo assigned to this task?
17201 is a community dd-wrt build, not a buffalo dd-wrt build, the 'alpha' build for the wzr-hp-ag300h is 17135, which is available for download on their site...
Af far as voiding your warranty is concerened, i do not think buffalo supports community dd-wrt builds so in essence, yes you void your warranty, but because you switch between buffalo dd-wrt builds and community builds (GOOGLE IT!) i am not sure how anyone would really know.
I just bought one of these bad boys on newegg. It was like 50 bucks off, and despite reading all the problems with it, I am still going through with it as I bought it for the hardware specs, I won't be using wireless with it.
I will more than likely use the community DD-WRT build, as one thing i did notice on while looking at the available firmware through the routers download site is the alpha firmware is labled as "wzrhpag300nh-pro-v24sp2-alpha-17135_us_eu_ap.enc". Notice the nh? Either someone made a typo, or somone goofed the firmware posted altogether. Just thought it might help some folks experiencing problems.
i picked up two of these to use with VPN service for VoIP bypass. I notices that these is considrable packet loss over the tunnel. compared againsed the linksys and it is certainly the router/firmware. has anyone seen this?,
Any progress on the firmware? There will be a release that is stable I hope? I just ordered one of these and was all excited until I read this forum lol.
One thing I did notice about the firmware is the CD image on the download page has more current firmware than the firmware that is offered by itself on the download page (as of 11/23/2011). If anyone is looking for newer firmware that may be an option for you.
Fry's isn't even selling these any longer. It's no wonder why.
Buffalo SUCKS!
Fry's is still selling them...
????http://www.frys.com/product/6684714?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
Maybe not in their local stores you mean..
This is incorrect info..
The version on the CD is 16519, the version on the downloads page is 17135. So no, don't wasting time downloading a CD image for an older version.
17135 is an alpha version, The CD contains the most current pro and user friendly non-alpha firmware. The European site has the same firmware on the contained on the CD as the most current version as well. I am thinking the guy who is responsible for updating the firmware on this site forgot to do it.
panik wrote:17135 is an alpha version, The CD contains the most current pro and user friendly non-alpha firmware. The European site has the same firmware on the contained on the CD as the most current version as well. I am thinking the guy who is responsible for updating the firmware on this site forgot to do it.
Or may have something to do with the fact the in the UK they have to adhere to strict sales policies, and therefore selling a product so you can install an alpha firmware version will result in alot of products being sent back for "faults". Or panik could be right nad someone forgot to do it. LOL.
Surely after the Alpha should be a Beta? That probably means we'll be waiting a while. Trying to get my dynDNS issue fixed with their support and I was told to use the user-friendly FW. The reason I bought this router was so I can use the OpenVPN feature!! LOL. Guess we have to play the waiting game.
Hate to break it to you, but even if they list it as Alpha, consider that incorrect, they are all betas, regardless of whether buffalo decides to name it alpha or not. These builds are all based off the dd-wrt SVN tree, which is in currently a beta state, if i had to advise you, i would say go by build number only, not by title, only time you need to go by title is when you start seeing RC1, RC2 etc. The current nightly build of dd-wrt is @ build # 17949. When the dd-wrt SVN tree produces a final, believe me, you'll know it because the community has been waiting on this for some years now.
The pro version is dd-wrt, the user friendly is not. the most current that buffalo considers "not-alpha" or whatever, and that will not void your warranty can be found on the CD.
I'm just trying to help people out. I don't know if you have paid attention to talk on the internet, but a lot of people have been having a lot of issues with this router for some reason.
Don't get me wrong, your help is appreciated. But let me ask this, do you have problems with this router?
I think everyone knows there are issues with the Buffalo Pro build!! When I spoke to the support technician, he advised me to use the user friendly version. I haven't tried it but does anyone have any issues they have experienced with this?
I was disappointed by the fact that I can't OpenVPN due to the DDNS not working on the Pro build. Which was a big selling point for me!! Now the only fact is any information we provide each other seems to point out issues we are experiencing. I could not find any change logs or documention for version updates, which makes it very difficult to find answers to issues. So let us hope Buffalo saying "an update is scheduled to be released soon" does mean this side of the New Year. Hey you never know it could be the XMAS magic working overtime if they do. LOL
buddee wrote:Don't get me wrong, your help is appreciated. But let me ask this, do you have problems with this router?
I have not had issues with this router, but I also have been in an IT proffession for the last 10 years, have messed with DD-WRT since it was fairly new, and build some mid size network which relied on the firmware.
Pretty solid router, but I must say, if you want a one touch make things work, you might want to use a different router or at least use the user friendly firmware. If you really want to unleash the potential of a router and are willing to put some time/effort to getting things work, there are plenty of community work arounds and instructions at the DD-WRT forums (which I see you often posting and have Guru status).
The WZR-HP-AG300H with DDWRT firmware is (in my opinion) an excellant router. But you have to realize that as the above poster stated, if you want a one touch device, then it is not for you! It is a professional firmware designed to be tinkered with to meet your solutions.
Most excellent, thats what i like to see. :)
I disagree. The router and/or the software is flakey.
I have two of these routers setup as a client-bridge and I have to reset one or both of them about once per week because they stop functioning.
Additionaly, this router is marketted as "Hi Power" and it certainly is not. This Buffalo underperforms my 7+ year old Linksys in terms of signal strength.
I get the feeling that people imagine the range/output power being low strictly from looking at the output power on the Wireless Status page.
There's a new firmware out, version 17798 release on Dec 5, 2011, but it's still an alpha build. I would give it a try but I am on the community DD-WRT and waiting for Brainslayer to come out with one based on this version.
Anybody want to give it a try? Maybe the low tx power issue has finally been fixed?
new community build is out now, 17967, try it out if your having issues.
Well i guess a lot us here have experience some issues that are somehow frustrate us at the same time having a regret on the other side, hope Buffalo will provide us a firmware that will resolve our issues.
Is there any update information about this unit?
After nothing but headaches with my TWO WZR-HP-AG300H's, I purchased a router and bridge from D-Link and couldn't be happier.
The D-Link products are well thought out, fast, and built excelently. The UI is responsive and robust. It's immediately obvious using both products that D-Link has been building wireless products for years, while Buffalo has little experience.
That's your opinion, which i do not agree with. To me d-link is very touchy routers, they don't revise their hardware to versions, they use some kind of lettering system that makes it a quagmire to flash any 3rd party firmware to and most people know this, and considering buffalo is the first to even have a demo unit for 802.11ac gigabit wireless, i'd say they have a big leap ahead of their competition.
Having a demo unit is marketing hype--just like the WZR-HP-AG300GH. You can make all the claims and fulfill all the marketing bullet points you like, if the product doesn't work it's all pointless. The WZR's box was filled with bold claims: high power, etc, etc. None of those claims rang true in my expereince, or in the testing at smallnetbuilder.com. While the ability to run DD-WRT was appealing to me at first, at this point I believe it's a hinderance and part of the problem. They development of DD-WRT may be as flawed as Buffalo wireless products themselves. DD-WRT looks great and has tons of features on the surface, but I'm not convinced it actually works very well underneath all the flash.
D-Link makes a wide range of consumer and proffessional networking products. I disagree with your claim that they do not identify hardware revisions. Both the units I purchased were identified as such both on the units sticker, as well as on the title page of each page in the UI. I had no issue locating and applying firmware updates. One of the particularly nice things about the D-Links is that they have their default IP and login info printed on the sticker of each product. You can also access the web UI by typing something like http://dlinkap. That's a great and thoughful feature with years of experience behind it. For my Buffalo's, I had to dig up an obscure, add-on piece of paper which came in the box to get the default IP. The D-link's were very quick and easy to setup, and have "just worked" since.
I had TWO of the same Buffalo wireless units, and they were both heavily flawed in the same ways.
o I had to reboot them both on a regular basis
o WAN connection was unstable
o at one point, they both became completely currupted recquiring complete reflash and setup
o the 2.4 wireless radio turned off consistantly and had to be restarted
o the UI was slow and inconsistant
o the cases are cheap and toy like
o software support non-existant--there's been one update in almost a year, and it broke about as much as it fixed.
I didn't say they don't revise their hardware, i said they don't revise their hardware to a versioning system, they use a lettering system to revise with - like a dir 615 comes in a C1, C2, D1, D2, D3 etc.
You make it sound as if i said they don't revise their hard AT ALL, which i didn't say. Also you shouldn't blame your shortcomings with not knowing how to config dd-wrt, you sound more like a user that needs an easy config in order to work with, and perhaps d-link fits that bill for you, but to continue to troll on something of this nature is kinda pointless, especially when it was a choice you made, nobody made you buy what you bought, you did it. You could have just got your d-link products and use them and be happy, but no, you needed to come back to troll about a descision you made. Shame on you.
My DD-WRT was configured correctly, thank you very much. It worked just fine except when it wasn't, due to random hardware/software bugs. You say: "you sound more like a user that needs an easy config in order to work with" and I wonder what specifically that is based on? Are you saying that anyone who has an issue with DD-WRT or a Buffalo prduct is a simpleton?
You're complaining about a companies versioning standard--are you a developer or an engineer, what is your specific knowledge on the topic? If this is your basis for discounting an entire compnay and/or product line, that's up to you. It seems a little nonsensical to me. You're claimiing that I can't configure DD-WRT(which even if it was true would be understandable since DD-WRT is in fact somewhat complicated), while you can't figure out how to navigate a letter/number hardware revisioning system?
Shame on me--for what, expecting products I purchase to work correctly and as promised? When did I say that someone made me buy inferior Buffalo products? I'm continuing to post(troll in your words) on this topic, as I have periodically since I purchased the product, in an effort to educate other folks who are experienceing issues with their Buffalo products, or poeple who are in the market for a wireless product. I have also researched solutions to the issues I've seen with my products here, and it appears there really aren't any. I am certainly not the only person on this board who is experienceing issues with their Buffalo product. In fact, if you have a look at the D-Link forums, there is a rather smaller amount of issues which says a lot, since D-Link's market share is probably orders of magnitute higher than Buffalo's.
If you believe my posting is pointless, I invite you to ignore it. I belive it's potentially usefull for others who have or are considering purchasing Buffalo wireless products.
My comments on this product are based on a lengthy track record of constant use of a spcific product. It's not a single bad egg, as I have two of the same units--it's not a fluke. I've made a switch to comparable products from another company, and I'm reporting my experience so far has been positive. Time will tell on the topic of stability, but in every other respect, I find D-Link products supperior to Buffalo's.
You have provided me with the biggest LOL i have had in a while, for that i must thank you.
After using my D-Link setup for over a month now, I am happy to report ZERO issues.
I've not had to reboot my router, acces point or cable modem once since they were configured.
I was lucky if my Buffalo setup ran for two days.
Senorpablo wrote:After using my D-Link setup for over a month now, I am happy to report ZERO issues.
I've not had to reboot my router, acces point or cable modem once since they were configured.
I was lucky if my Buffalo setup ran for two days.
That's a cool story, I can report the same about my Buffalo for the last 5 months. And also was able to use ssh tunneling (which i utilized half way across the world), set up a vpn, and am happy to know that I have a far more capable router than you :) I'm glad that you found something that you can handle.
Panik and buddee,
Since you're both such fans of the Buffalo AG300H, perhaps you'd like to buy the two I have--since you both seem to make the claim that the routers are fine and it's just a case of I "can't handle" them? If they're so fantastic, you won't have a problem selling them or making them productive for yourselves. Two for the price of one.
Put your money where you mouth is.
Senorpablo - Your flaming taunts won't work here, i have no need for another AG300H, i already have it and a G300NH which servs my and my family's needs just fine. And no i don't plan on buying them from you so as to sell them elsewhere, that would just leave me for more footwork to do for you. Your trolling taunts don't need to be fed here, and you should seek your meals elsewhere.
On a sidenote - you shouldn't try to sell your routers on a retailer's support forum, not the wisest move, but i figure you are full of unwise moves... if you seriously want to sell them, you should post sale in dd-wrt forum or openwrt forum.
Best Regards
Just curious but has anybody got the logging features to work yet? I still can't get the incomming/outgoing logs to populate. I've tried enabling with the high setting and still nothing gets logged. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Buddee -- You're the troll here.
My posts contain reports of my experience with Buffalo products. These are based on actual use and experience; first hand knowledge. You have chosen, over and over, to make personal attacks which include snide comments, based on your assumptions and speculation regarding me. I've no idea why you chose to interpret my frustration with Buffalo products and their quality personally, but that's your choice.
As for selling the routers--I would never sell something I determined to be grossly defective to anyone who wasn't fully aware of what they were purchasing. In other words, someone like you who seems to not have issues with them. I won't waste another minute on these routers trying to sell them open market; wouldn't wish them on anyone.
As an update, my D-Link products continue to work wonderfully.
Somtimes people get unlucky. I have two 450's that work just fine and I had a g300nhv1 that didnt. I replaced it and the next one worked fine. Sure the firmware might have problems but I'm just glad that a company was willing to stick their neck out and try to support and use an open source firmware. It probably takes longer for firmware updates to come out since a 3rd party is now involved. Now others are following the same route with open source
. It would probably be in both of your interests to stop posting or I can have Brian Nathaniel just close this thread.
i agree above, buddee is trolling.
these routers have firmware problems or hardware issues since there is no true stability with them yet.
i could care less whether you agree that you think i am trolling when infact i am not, stating firmware problems is one thing, coming into a forum and saying you prefer another hardware vendor is another issue. And i have said many times, if you don't like the products, don't buy them. You slam buffalo products in their forum and call me a troll? Constructive feedback is alot more different than what you guys are bellowing out. Hrmm... Buffalo makes great products and i personally have no problems with them.