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: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: ballio January 06, 2009, 01:16:58 AM
   

Hi,

 

I have the LinkStation Pro Duo with 1.08 fw. I've set it up as a RAID 1. The harddrive has been nearly unusable until my most recent firmware update. I've been using it with both mac (OSX 10.5.6) and a PC (XP). However, it's been really nonresponsive and slow. Before 1.08 it would constant unmounts itself and freezes until I restart the Pro Duo again.

 

Even with 1.08, I still cannot fully backup my iPhoto Library, which is about 30 GBs in size. It stops in the middle without any messages. Transfer of all files are really slow (5 Mb/s at max). All my systems are connected through a Dlink DI-524 with ethernet connection. Can anyone help me with this slow performance? Is it some settings I'm missing?

 

Also, I've been trying to hook it up to my PS3 but to no avail. The PS3 would not recognize the LinkStation. I've been looking on the forums but I don't see the media server option in either the NASnavigator or the web browser admin. Where is the DLNA functionality as advertised?

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: Paul January 07, 2009, 08:49:59 AM
I would try to set the unit back to factory defaults to increase performance.  As for the PS3 we will be releasing a firmware for that soon.
: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: ballio January 07, 2009, 10:33:43 AM
   

Hi Paul,

 

Thanks for your quick response! I just initialized the settings of the Pro Duo. It does seems more responsive but the transfer speed is not much faster. Is there any settings either in the NAS or router I can look at to make it go faster? It's connected through ethernet to the router, shouldn't I get somewhat a LAN speed?

 

I am really excited for the firmware upgrade to get the PS3 working!!

 

Thanks! 

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: davo January 07, 2009, 11:56:58 AM
   5Mbps on a 100mbit network is actaully pretty good. Enable jumbo frames in the network settings if your network can support this. However i doubt it can.
: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: njtrentacoste January 08, 2009, 01:14:03 PM
   

I own this device and see pretty good performance on it.  I've had it for several months and have never restarted it.  I love it!  Rock solid in my opinion.  I wish it would talk to an XBOX 360, but I recently picked up a PS3 and am VERY EXCITED about the forthcoming capability to allow them to work together.  One question is what's preventing these two DLNA certified devices from working out of the box?

 

Thanks,

    Nick 

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: ballio January 08, 2009, 01:14:58 PM
   

Well, yeah, 5 mb/s is not that bad as long as it keeps it up. For smaller files it's ok, but for bigger files it gets down to 0.1 mb/s, which is pretty slow...

 

I have a 30 GB file that was never backed up to the drive because it gets too slow in the middle... Any ideas?

 

Thanks. 

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: trtadlock January 09, 2009, 05:38:57 PM
   

Paul,

 

When can we expect a firmware update for the LS Pro Duo?

 

From thread Re: DLNA compatibility ?, it appears that the new firmware has resolved the PS3 incompatibility issues for the LinkStation Live users.

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: Colin137 January 13, 2009, 03:07:06 PM

Ballio, that is pretty strange. Do you have a PC you could try transferring that file with?

 

trtadlock, I would expect that update soon, but I don't have a release date for you. The NAS devices that got that fix were not done at the same time.

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: nivenj January 14, 2009, 03:32:13 AM
   I was under the impression that the /R1 variants (ie the 1.x firmware) does not, nor will it support DLNA. Am I incorrect in this? Woul be good to know, as I was just about to purchase a FREEGENE NAS just so I could stream to my PS3.
: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: Colin137 January 15, 2009, 12:40:07 PM

Good call nivenj, although you're slightly off the mark. I'll forgive you this time :)

 

The Linkstation Pro Duo has two different hardware revisions, hence the 1.xx and 3.xx firmware versions. The one that carries the 1.xx firmware has a single USB port, power and reset buttons, and does not include the media server components. The revised hardware version carries the 3.xx firmware, has two USB ports, function button and power switch, and includes the media server.

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: mikehammer January 30, 2009, 06:25:59 AM
   

Paul

 

does fw 3.09 fix the PS3 compatibility issues? Just asking and hoping cause I've seen nothing in the release notes.

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: dadgumit February 03, 2009, 05:57:05 AM
   I am a bit confused now, only the R3 Variants will work with the PS3?
: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: Colin137 February 03, 2009, 10:45:29 AM

mikehammer: The 3.08 firmware had fixes for the PS3 compatibility, 3.09 has those fixes, plus fixes for server 2008 active directory integration. Sony tends to alternately break, then fix DLNA support, so i would wait for the next PS3 firmware update.

 

dadgumit: Correct. The version 1.xx units do not have the media servers.

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: dadgumit February 03, 2009, 08:04:55 PM
   

Thanks for the quick response. My buddy (I am friend/tech support) must have the R3 then, he says his PS3 SEEs the nas, but he has no files in it yet. I will be over there by this weekend, I guess that will tell the tale.

 

 

Is there a Buffalo drive that is particularly good for this purpose (preferably with mirroring)?

Thanks!

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: Colin137 February 06, 2009, 11:29:21 AM
The only devices that are capable of RAID and support DLNA are the v3 LS Pro Duo (LS-WTGL/R1-v3), the LS Mini (LS-WSGL), the LS Quad (LS-QTL), and the Terastation Live (HS-DHTGL/R5).
: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: BobS March 18, 2009, 06:12:37 AM
   

Hi all,

 

I have a similar problem with my Pro Duo LS-W1.0TGL/R1.  This is still at firmware 1.1 because I an't be sure that reflashing the system will actually solve the problem!

 

IMine is connected through a D-Link DSL-G604T Router Hub using the 100baseT hub.

 

I find that shifting my any significant amount of data takes so long that XPSP3 times out due to the slow transfer rates.  I've just done a test moving a 23Mb TIFF file and this has taken 2m7s, giving a transfer rate of 0.181MB/s (1.4Mbps).

 

This ultimately means I can't use it to back up any significant data without leaving the host PC on for far longer than I would need to.  I've had to give up using Synchtoy to synchronise folders to it as this too fails when it can't complete the task(s) in a reasonable time.  I have Outlook Archive folders on as well and this causes Outlook to slow to a crawl when it tries to archive any large amount of data.

 

The fastest solution I have found is to manually transfer each file individually, though whether this is actually faster may be an illusion, caused by actually seeing the progress bar move!

 

ANy helpful suggestions would be nice, or better still a solution from Buffalo.

 

Apart from that, it's fine!

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: DB258884 March 18, 2009, 10:01:25 AM
   

So, are we in agreement that R1-V1 will NOT communicate with a PS3??  Do we feel there is a possibility of this being rectified in the future?   (as I stare at my unopened Buffalo 1.0 TB LS-W1.0TGL/R1 box)

 

IF THIS IS THE CASE.....I would competently argue the website is pretty misleading---UNLESS I missed the boat where it notes the PS3, XBOX 360, etc....issues.

 

 

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: bendertheking March 19, 2009, 07:04:35 AM
   

Sorry but I cannot understand. I own a Linkstation Mini 1 TB LS-WS1.0TGL/R1 Black and I use it with my PS3 and it works PERFECTLY and it is FAST as hell , compatible with all video/music format Im on firmware 1.06 and I didnt had to configure it just was in the menu as soon as I attached my PS3 to my network.My PS3 is on 2.60 firmware.

 

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: dhnobles March 20, 2009, 10:51:54 PM
   Wait, Where on the website does it say that R1 doesn not work and R3 does? I looked all over the place referencing the entire model number and everything said that it used the DLNA server. Becuase I just got my R1 (didn't even see anything about being able to choose R1 or R3) and its basically a $365 brick because my PS3 can't see it? Have I got that right mods?
: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: BobS March 21, 2009, 07:30:05 AM
   

This thread seems to be focusing on the PS3 accessibility and ignoring the speed aspect.  Should the performance issue be started as a new thread - I don't have, don't want and don't need a PS3, I just need to use it as a functional NAS on a Network.

Any thoughts? 

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: bendertheking March 21, 2009, 07:33:56 AM
   

The speed(file transfer jumbo frame) is great and the compatibility also (LInkstation Mini 1 Tb)with ps3,wii transfer,osx,vista,xp and web access..tried with all

Still not really excellent  with iphone

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: Colin137 March 23, 2009, 07:19:24 PM

Here's some clarification on the model numbers:

 

LS-W1.0TGL/R1 is the general model number. There is no /R3 models, as /R1 stands for RAID1. 

 

There are two hardware revisions of the product. The first revision has version 1.xx firmware, a single USB port, a power BUTTON, an Auto/Manual power MODE SWITCH, and a RESET button. The second revision has version 3.xx firmware, two USB ports, an Off/On/Auto power SWITCH, and a FUNCTION button.

 

Additionally, the first revision does not have the media server capability.

Message Edited by Colin137 on 03-23-2009 07:37 PM
: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: ballio May 17, 2009, 10:31:03 PM
   

Thanks for all the great feedback. However, it's still really slow... I tried initializing the settings and putting on jumbo frames but it's pretty much the same thing. Would getting a new router improve the situation? The DLink DI-524 I'm using is pretty old. 

 

Now that I know my device doesn't support DLNA, I would still want it to be responsive and but a reliable source of backup. However, the device would not respond after a certain amount of time. I could mount to it just fine when it first got restarted. But after a day or so, I couldn't mount it anymore. I had to do a hard restart every time. It's becoming a pretty annoying issue.

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: BobS May 18, 2009, 08:51:17 AM
   

I've solved my speed problem - I started to get RAID array failures, and rebuilding the Array on Disk 2.  This would take absolutely hours!  Determining that repeated RAID failures may be telling me something, I replaced the Samsung HD501LJ (both drives the same) on Drive 2 with a Western Digital WD5000AAKS.

 

Speed and reliablity are (touch wood) now OK, and I hadn't realised how noisy the old drive had got until it was changed.  Whole network is faster too, the old drive was obviously causing much noise on the networks and affecting everything else.

 

As for the D-Link router, I have a DSL-G604T. which is also showing signs of age (like it doesn't reboot properly when requested) and has been replaced with a Thomson TG585v7.  This has a 4-port 10/100 Switch and seems OK (just wish it was Gigabit).  However, the D-Link router works fine as a 4-port hub when the ADSL section is disabled.  So now the Printers run off the D-Link with a cable connecting the two routers (the Thomson has MDIX on the ports) and so far, everything seems OK.

 

Hope this experience helps.

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: Glen_Zabriskie January 19, 2010, 01:40:34 AM
   

So will there be a forthcoming firmware fix for DNLA support for the older 1 USB model??? If not, everywhere you aor any retailer has advertised this product has claimed that it does DNLA.    Its false advertising to claim a major feature like that and then not support it.  Didnt you guys learn a lesson with the Wireless G lawsuit?

 

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: JoshC January 19, 2010, 02:08:11 AM

I would suggest moving to another forum and start trouble elsewhere.

: Re: LinkStation Pro Duo - LS-W1.0TGL/R1 - PS3 Incompatibility and REALLY slow performance
: kaddude February 02, 2010, 08:55:37 AM
   

I share Glen Zabriskie's concerns.  It is not at all obvious on the Buffalo site that there is a version of the Pro Duo that DOESN'T support DLNA.  So like Glen I have a NAS that can't talk to my PS3 (should have got a Netgear ReadyNAS). 

 

Is Buffalo going to rectify this, eg by providing a firmware fix to add the DLNA support to the Pro Duo's that, based on your site, we all EXPECTED it to have?