Please don't refer me to the DD WRT forums. I am talking about the official Buffalo routers with the pre-installed slightly modified DD WRT firmware. The press release said the non-gig version of the 300 would be shipping in May. I have not seen or heard anything past that announcement. My linkysys is barely hanging on and I need to upgrade and have been waiting to buy until I can get the DD WRT version.
Thanks
DK
I also want to know. I want to get a N router, but I only want the ones that support DDWRT. I am waiting eagerly for Buffalo N router.
Thats all of the information that has been released at this moment. Please check our website (and these forums) for further updates.
dates were given and they are saying sometime in july.
The website/press release stated that the non-gig version of the 300 would be in May, the gig version would be later. I will settle for the non-gig version.
Also, to the moderator that said to check the website and forums - That is what I am doing, but seeing zero information is why I posted the question. I would bet I am not the only one who would like to know. I was hoping that someone from Buffalo would give a answer with a date or at least a timeline.
Thanks,
DK
Look just past mid-May.
Awesome, thanks
So will this customized version be posted on the site for early wzr adopters?
Just a heads up to dd-wrt testers at Buffalo, there is a bug in dd-wrt which drops the 300Mbps to 130Mbps after a few minutes. This bug has been there since the very first build of dd-wrt for wzr. This happens in a croweded environment. The current stock doesn't suffer from this issue. Check this thread for more info.
http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=72227
This needs to be resolved.
That is only 1 of the wireless issues for those who install DD-WRT onto their wzr-hp-g300nh routers.
The biggest issue seems to be the frequent disconnects caused by the "stuck beacon" error. The reason for this is the use of the old buggy MadWiFi driver along with a closed source Atheros HAL in DD-WRT instead of the correct ath9k driver. The DD-WRT folks have stated that there will be no ath9k support , so expect poor wireless performance across the board when you install their firmware on the wzr-hp-g300nh.
There are other wireless bugs in the DD-WRT implementation for these routers...such as frequent disconnects while doing large file transfers.
I can't believe that Buffalo is allowing this to happen.
Do youself a favor and use the current factory firmware or install OpenWRT (which does use the most current ath9k driver) on these routers.
I bet the stock firmware is looking good and stable to everyone now? :smileywink:
Buffalo said the WZR-HP-G300NH with DD-WRT will be out in July, obviously there not going to release it with bugs like this.
2 months to go.
2 months don't matter much when dd-wrt dev's have already announced that they will not be implementing the proper driver for WZR-HP-G300NH wireless. That driver, and the closed source hardware abstract layer that it requires, are both bugged to death. Buffalo will have to step up in order to avoid allowing a huge mistake. The question is....will they?
It's not too late for Buffalo to partner with a true open source firmware that actually works :P
Or continue developing their current stock firmware, which works fine for most users anyway and is very stable.
It's time to face the fact that dd-wrt is no longer what it once was.
Can you give me a link to where the dd-wrt devs said that? would like to see it.
Here's the response from Sash regarding ath9k
"Just a heads up to dd-wrt testers at Buffalo, there is a bug in dd-wrt which drops the 300Mbps to 130Mbps after a few minutes. This bug has been there since the very first build of dd-wrt for wzr. This happens in a croweded environment. The current stock doesn't suffer from this issue. Check this thread for more info.
http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=72227
This needs to be resolved."
Not yet, not by us at least, we still do not support flashing DDWRT yourself.
i doubt official buffalo dd-wrt will be any better than the regular dd-wrt so i for one will be sticking to the stock firmware which is currently far more stable than any variant of dd-wrt.
only option thats worth considering is using openwrt since it uses the ath9k driver and not the crappy madwifi driver.
Ok, I see I started a thread which ended up going in a slightly different direction. That was not my intention, but now that we are in a different direction, I have a new question(s). I see that there is a lot of dis-satisfaction with the WRT firmware, although it is not the official Buffalo/WRT version. I would like to get the opinion of people with knowledge of the buffalo routers.
My current router is a linksys 54 something (can't remember the exact model). I have heard in general good things about the buffalo routers and have made up my mind to give them a try. Should I go with the non-gig version (G300N) with the Buffalo/WRT firmware which should be available any day now or should I go with the gig version (G300NH) with the stock buffalo firmware. I actually wouldn't be looking for a new router, if it wern't for the fact that my existing one seems to be the culprit with dropped connection to a wireless laptop running Vista on the b band.
I don't have any special needs for the router, just that it work with Windows7, WinXP, Vista, ReadyNAS NV and Squeezbox. The Gig ports would be nice, but not a must have since I have a gig switch already connecting all my inside wired network equipment. If the recommendation is for the Buffalo firmware, then I would get the Gig version cause it is only 20 bucks more. The most complicated software setup I have on my current router is a couple of port forwards for remote desktop.
I did read a bunch of older threads that said the stock verion of firmware was really buggy, has that been fixed?
Thanks,
DK
The current stock firmware from Buffalo works fine. Unfortunately it doesn't have a few things I need (such as logging websites visited, restrict access to certain sites, block by keyword) or I would be happy to use the stock firmware. Stock firmware is MUCH more stable than the dd-wrt offering.
On the stock firmware you can block websites, but by IP instead of keyword.
Hello Mutat
Yes, there are several hijackers in this thread. However - the thread is still about "where are the routers with DD-WRT", not about DD-WRT itself.
It's now June and I have seen no word about these routers since the initial press release. Where is the dd-wrt? Will the dd-wrt be shipping with a new hardware version or will I be able to update to the (stock) dd-wrt firmware if I buy a router right now and it doesn't come with it?
press release did say it was gonna be in late july.
No, it said two would be released in May and one in July.
From the press release...
"WHR-HP-G300N and WHR-HP-GN will be available in May 2010 while WZR-HP-G300NH will be available in July. All three units are backed by a limited two-year warranty that includes toll-free, US based 24/7 technical support."
I purchased a WHR-HP-G300N with high hopes... It is now June... I'm slightly pissed.
I understand development and all that jazz... but how about setting the bar low and surprising everyone with an early release as opposed to setting the bar high and disappointing everyone?
I understand development and all that jazz... but how about setting the bar low and surprising everyone with an early release as opposed to setting the bar high and disappointing everyone?
And then what to do when this early release is full of bugs?! Some surprise that would be!
davo wrote:I understand development and all that jazz... but how about setting the bar low and surprising everyone with an early release as opposed to setting the bar high and disappointing everyone?
And then what to do when this early release is full of bugs?! Some surprise that would be!
Well.. that's what I mean by setting the bar low. Just say September for both versions of the firmware while continuing to work your ass off. Then, when it gets done, release it. As opposed to being like "May 2010!.. probably... maybe... ok.. our fingers are crossed... yeah, you're going to be disappointed"
seeing as how this buffalo dd-wrt firmware will be still using the madwifi driver i suggest you guys not to get your hopes up since current results of the madwifi driver show that there is huge instability on atheros based devices.
Hi. Look at this
http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=72611
and this
Shreez wrote:Hi. Look at this
http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=72611
and this
I believe we're all interested in the official firmware from buffalo, and if we were interested in flashing ourselves would do so.
slybunda wrote:seeing as how this buffalo dd-wrt firmware will be still using the madwifi driver i suggest you guys not to get your hopes up since current results of the madwifi driver show that there is huge instability on atheros based devices.
So in your opinion buffalo wouldn't have taken on that issue themselves and specifically added the ath9k driver?
I mean... if they're wanting to provide a stable release that would be the logical step right? Guess I'm just hoping the developers that took on working with dd-wrt decided to use logic and add that support specifically for these models...
I have managed to have a look at a pre release Buffalo DD-WRT FW for the WHR-HP-G300N. Looks good, apparently the user will have the option to either install a "user friendly" FW (non DD-WRT) or a Pro version (which includes DD-WRT) and is upgradable from existing versions. Will be trying it out over the next while and see how i get on :P
So does the beta version include OpenVPN as promised? I'm running the older 'public' DD-WRT and it works OK although some issues and perhaps not as good wireless performance as the factory firmware (perhaps the bad driver issue so vehemently discussed by others) and does NOT have OpenVPN... ,,,
Firmware for WHR-HP-G300N Verison 1.82 is available at US web site, I don't if it's the DD-WRT version or not
I'm running 1.82 on my WHR-HP-G300N and it's not DD-WRT.
davo wrote:I have managed to have a look at a pre release Buffalo DD-WRT FW for the WHR-HP-G300N. Looks good, apparently the user will have the option to either install a "user friendly" FW (non DD-WRT) or a Pro version (which includes DD-WRT) and is upgradable from existing versions. Will be trying it out over the next while and see how i get on :P
Please let us know how it works and if you find out anything on availability!
Official Buffalotech/DD-WRT FW update for WHR-HP-GN: whr-hp-gn
Official Buffalotech/DD-WRT FW update for WHR-HP-G300N: whr-hp-g300n
The FW is in the CD image. We will break out the FW as a separate download soon.
This may be installed by all owners of the above products - including products purchased prior to this FW release.
Do not install the FW on wireless routers with a different part number.
Just in time for my router's arrival tomorrow. Awesome.
FW for the other xxx-HP-xxxx routers to come soon.
Wow, thank you. Can't wait for wzr now.
downloaded and tested the whr-hp-gn firmware on closer inspection it still uses the madwifi driver and as such it has locked up on me twice so far. gone back to the friendly firmware and doubt dd-wrt is worth the bother.
slybunda wrote:downloaded and tested the whr-hp-gn firmware on closer inspection it still uses the madwifi driver and as such it has locked up on me twice so far. gone back to the friendly firmware and doubt dd-wrt is worth the bother.
I'll assume the same for g300n than?
Frustrating.
Anyone else having any luck?
Will this firmware work with wzr-hp-g300nH?
No, the FW would brick anything that doesn't have the same part number. Each FW is designed for one part number, and one part number only (different controllers, and different functionalities)
Buffalotech WZR FW with DD-WRT isn't supposed to be here until July, at the earliest.
I just want to say that I've been using DD-WRT for awhile on my WZR-HP-G300NH with no problems whatsoever.
I didn't notice any problems with the wireless and it doesn't seem any worse than the official firmware.
It's actually very easy to update to DD-WRT, so if you can't wait a few weeks, then update to DD-WRT now, its really not any different from updating to newer firmware.
I flashed the official Buffalo ddwrt firmware on my WHR-HP-GN. It works good but no open VPN support. According to the ddwrt forums the WHR-HP-GN does not have enough memory for the openvpn version so folks you won't see openvpn support. It only has pptp client support which I have been unable to get to work with my vpn service. It connects to the vpn as far as I can tell after running some diags but it won't route the network traffic through the tunnel so basically it doesn't work.
Other than that, I am running it as a client bridge and it works fine so far. No problems yet other than I can't get vpn to work.
SirDragonx wrote:I flashed the official Buffalo ddwrt firmware on my WHR-HP-GN. It works good but no open VPN support. According to the ddwrt forums the WHR-HP-GN does not have enough memory for the openvpn version so folks you won't see openvpn support. It only has pptp client support which I have been unable to get to work with my vpn service. It connects to the vpn as far as I can tell after running some diags but it won't route the network traffic through the tunnel so basically it doesn't work.
Other than that, I am running it as a client bridge and it works fine so far. No problems yet other than I can't get vpn to work.
Great. So I bought the thing because they claimed it would get the support, now it won't and I have yet another cake router taking up space that can't run the OpenVPN DD-WRT client because it doesn't really have enough memory (same issue with some Netgears). What a waste of my time.
Memoryman wrote:FW for the other xxx-HP-xxxx routers to come soon.
So, we can expect a DD-WRT firmware version for the WHR-HP-G54 even though it was not announced?
ChrisWB wrote:
Memoryman wrote:FW for the other xxx-HP-xxxx routers to come soon.
So, we can expect a DD-WRT firmware version for the WHR-HP-G54 even though it was not announced?
There is one available and has been for several years (the WHR-HP-G54DD, it comes pre loaded with DD-WRT firmware)
Or
you can install the firmware from the DD-WRT website onto this unit. Be aware that this will void your warranty though.
Yes, I'm hoping for a firmware that will not void my warranty for my brand new (and more expensive) router.
Buffalotech DD-WRT FW for WHR-HP-GN and WHR-HP-G300N has been out since June
So, I take it that means there will be no official, non-warranty voiding DD-WRT firmware for the WHR-HP-G54.
We are only providing FW for several of the High power N routers and BT branded DD-WRT - not for any of the G routers.
Ok, we're into August now, any word on the WZR firmware release? Thanks.
(by the way, this has been an over-promised and frustrating endeavor so far)
ChrisWB wrote:So, I take it that means there will be no official, non-warranty voiding DD-WRT firmware for the WHR-HP-G54.
There already is and has been for several years, the WHR-HP-G54DD
http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?ProductID=5263
When is the new ddwrt based firmware for the bufallo wzr-300-gh going to be released? I know it was supposed to be released in July but whats the holdup?
still waiting on the final version OK from QA engineers.
That's excellent, is there any kind of ETA then? Days, weeks, months?
That router is not sold in the United States. We either have to use the garbage firmware or void our warranty flashing to a third party firmware.
davo wrote:
ChrisWB wrote:So, I take it that means there will be no official, non-warranty voiding DD-WRT firmware for the WHR-HP-G54.
There already is and has been for several years, the WHR-HP-G54DD
http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?ProductID=5263
Quality Engineers' deadline was July and some bugs needing ironing out. they're working as fast as possible.
While I don't doubt they're working hard, snarky comments like "quality engineers don't give ETAs" don't help anyone. Quality customers don't wait around for false promises, and definitely do not buy again when they've been lied to.
not a snarky comment, just the truth. I apologize if you took the meaning wrong, it was not intended to rile you up.
Didn't rile me up, it seems we just may disagree on the definition of quality engineers and what they do.
In a best practice scenario, quality engineers test the FW against the HW for bugs, then report back to the code engineers to fix any found bugs.
Then, the process repeats itselft until the quality engineers can't find bugs.
Obviously, good quality engineers will try to find all bugs, but as we all know, in every company, some bugs may be missed and those will be addressed in the next FW revision. We try to find all bugs prior to a release, which means the process could go back and forth more than once. That's why I stated the QE's can't give an ETA - they don't know if a FW rewrite will introduce a new bug during the rewrite. If they gave an ETA, it would be a guess, not a firm ETA. I don't believe in providing guesses to customers, as I don't feel a customer deserves a guess.
after contacting buffalo support i was informed that the firmware will be released during mid september. the current issues with dd-wrt make it far less stable than the standard firmware. so going to dd-wrt will be a massive downgrade in reliability and stability.
but do understand, that when dd-wrt comes out for the wzr-hp-g300nh its not going to be impressive. its still using the madwifi driver so expect very low signal strength and unstable and low wireless performance.
madwifi does not have official driver support for the atheros 9xxx series cpus.
I've seen your posts on the madwifi before slybunda, and having tried a DD-WRT offering already, I believe you. I've been hoping for the best. Outside of trying to satisfy a big selling point of the router, I can't imagine why they'd keep working on a buggy or lesser firmware (if that is indeed the case). I doubt that it will live up to my (much lowered) expectations, and I've been keeping up on the firmware news for what feels like a morbid curiosity. I think I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and switch to another WRT. Is that what you did?
Couldn't agree more with all parts of that post.
gdog05 wrote:While I don't doubt they're working hard, snarky comments like "quality engineers don't give ETAs" don't help anyone.
Absolutely. Of course estimates aren't going to be exactly perfectly correct. We live in an imperfect world. And sure it probably isn't a quality engineers job... but we don't care WHOSE job it is, it should be somebody's job to make an estimate if you have customers waiting for a promised product. It's one thing if you're developing an unannounced / unpromised product, this is another sitcheashun entirely.
gdog05 wrote:Quality customers don't wait around for false promises, and definitely do not buy again when they've been lied to.
Yep. I'm quite bummed and likely all my business and word of mouth is going elsewhere in future. For two reasons:
A. Foremost, the long delay in release and still even then promised features were not delivered (ex: OpenVPN... why I bought the router and waited for the firmware release...)
B. Substandard driver / software use. I understand there are complications with the drivers and perhaps issues with what can be used but hey Buff is a reasonable sized manufacturer, you'd think they could either develop fresh improved driver code or work closely with Aetheros to create such a thing.
If both of those issues can be addressed I could change my mind but at this point I'm about to shop for my 3rd router to replace the Buffalo unit as no hope seems likely on the horizon.
Ok well I have waited this long, what is 1 month again?
Which is better at the moment: DDWRT or stock firmware?
I purchased the WZR-HP-G300NH from NewEgg based on the manufacturer response "marco@buffalotech.com" made to a customer review there:
"new DD-WRT supported firmware is now available for download at buffalotech.com"
I chose this unit specifically for the combination of gigabit wired ports and "official" DD-WRT support, as being able to set it up as an OpenVPN endpoint is my primary reason for replacing my current router. I'm not going to hang onto this currently useless-to-me unit on the vague hope that the customized DD-WRT (with drivers that actually work correctly) will materialize sometime in September, well past when I'd be able to RMA it back to NewEgg for a refund if I'm not happy with the results (or if the promised DD-WRT-based firmware just never happens at all).
Sorry, Buffalo, but I'll be taking my business elsewhere. You've cost me a restocking fee and return shipping based on Marco's mistaken/misleading statement about the availability of the firmware. This was my first-ever Buffalo product. It will also be my last. And I will be recommending against your company and its products whenever the opportunity arises.
@nareshseep I think it depends on your model number a bit. I have the A0 03, and with 4 versions of DD-WRT I tried, all had rapid wireless disconnects. Stock firmware is stable, but most of the features don't work well enough to mess with. So, you've got a vanilla router basically, unless you have some luck with DD-WRT.
@quixote I've been holding off for too long, so no such luck on return. I have heard good things about the ASUS RT-N16. That's what I'm leaning towards.
@nareshseep - in my case I doing OK with the Buffalo version DD-WRT but I have mine set up to do daily reboots so the driver problem seems to get mitigated (I'm assuming it has a memory leak or something). onlly reason I'm sticking with that is that the web-managment responsiveness is a lot faster really, otherwise I'd probably have the OEM FW.
@quixote - couldn't agree more. nothing like advertising "OpenVPN support!" and then not delivering. plus some of the benefits of DD-WRT like bumping up txmit power don't work (before somebody flames me about "you shouldn't NEED higher transmit power you're just like bumming out other people man!" I have a building with massive concrete walls, every bit of signal strength makes a difference to my effectiveness and there's few anybody's within range to be bothered... )
@gdog05 - agreed also - looking at the Asus. too bad as the potential is there for the buffalo.
At this point DD-WRT hardly gives you anything the stock firmware didn't so not sure what the whole point is of the exercise for them, except maybe they intentionally wanted to alienate new customers as part of some complex and nefarious strategy... Hmmm maybe they want to drive the company under, do a management buy-out at a bargain price, then fast-track the recovery because they have all the fixes secretly ready to go! That must be it!
@gdog5 I have the A0 D0 revision of the router
@vibranto I gots the same setting enable on my router to reboot everyday at midnight and so far no connection issues. I am running DD-WRT v24-sp2 (02/24/10) std build 13977 and I am getting problems with QOS, what version of ddwrt is best for the router? I have never used the stock firmware as it was D.O.A., also does the stock firmware have QOS that can rival ddwrt?
Has anyone gotten success with any other firmware such as tomato /openwrt / xwrt etc.
I'm working on adding OpenWRT components to DD-WRT using this guide: http://g300nh.blogspot.com/
I'm running into a couple of problems though, trying to resolve them now. Also, I installed Brainslayer's build 14815, and I'm having fewer dropoffs on my A0 03 (still having them though).
Admin note: installing any non-Buffalo approved firmware, immediately voids your product warranty.
iv used openwrt on the wzr and its been great, openwrt uses the atheros ath9k which is the proper driver for atheros 9 series processors. the wifi and routing is rock solid using openwrt. only drawback is that dd-wrt is better laid out. if only dd-wrt used ath9k driver it would be the best solution for these routers.
14815 is an old build there is an even newer one out now.
drmemory wrote:We are only providing FW for several of the High power N routers and BT branded DD-WRT - not for any of the G routers.
You guys should probably send Newegg.com an email so they can stop advertising the WHR-HP-G54 as a DD-WRT supported router.
I installed DD-WRT on both my WZR-HP-G300NH and I was disapointed. You are better off with the factory Buffalo firmware v1.74. It is not very intuitive as far as the layout goes, but all features are explained and WDS connection does not get dropped constantly (Every +/- 10 minutes)
DD-WRT Cons:
1. Led indicators do not work as they should. Wireless led does not flicker based on wireless activity, it just blinks at the same frequency. The orange ock does not light up at all.
2. Switches in the back for router: "auto" "master" "slave" become inactive
3. Switch for engine: "movie" "file" doesn't seem to do anything
4. WDS setup in complex and once accomplished connection between the routers gets dropped constantly. Very annoying when playing multi-player games
DD-WRT Pros:
Very neat and intuitive interface
Works perfectly in Linksys WRT54GL
Buffalo v1.74 Cons:
In a WDS setup, the Slave router will not perform UPNP properly. My PS3 connected to ther Slave router does not see my Windows 7 media server connected to the Master router (connected my PS3 to Master router using Wi-Fi and it works but unfortunately PS3 Wi-Fi is not "N", which is the reason why I got the routers)
what build version did you install?
DD WRT build 14896 was released on the 9th of August
a little something about OpenWrt http://wiki.openwrt.org/inbox/buffalo/wzr-hp-g300h
Admin note: installing any non-Buffalo approved firmware, immediately voids your product warranty.